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E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? #803280 03/09/24 06:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP swingbabymix Veteran S Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 2,055	《I Dont Think That I Like Her Charlie Puth》 This song is very nice. The opening chords confuse me. Because I saw several ways to write it on YouTube. Let me play this song in the key of C major. His chord progression is C-E7/B-Am-Gm-C7-F about "E7/B", I see 2 other chords. These are G#dim/B and Bdim7 so, E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? In fact, I often use E7/G# in front of Am This is the first time I've seen E7/B WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO

Re: E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? swingbabymix #803303 03/09/24 07:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,953 Australia	Hi SBM. I know that you are on the road to learning music and music theory. I don't know if you've ever come across the information below. If you have just ignore it. If you haven't, maybe it will give come more insight into music for you. One of the ways that diminished chords work is that they can be considered to be a 7th chord without the root note. E7 = E G# B D If the root note (E) is removed, the chord becomes G# B D = G#dim (a diminished triad). Bdim7 = B D F Ab (where Ab is just another way of writing G#). Because the distance between each note in a dim7 chord is 3 semitones, there are really only three dim7th chords. They're just notated differently. What I mean is... Bdim7 = B (up 3 semitones) D (up 3 st) F (up 3 st) Ab (up 3 st) B (I'm back to the root note) This chord is the same notes as E7b9 (E G# (or Ab) B D F) without the root. In the key of C major, E7b9 will often sound better because the key has F in rather than the F3 that's found in E9. So Ddim7 = D (up 3 st) F (up 3 st) Ab (up 3 st) B (up 3 st) D These are exactly the same notes as Bdim7. It's just the root note that is different. The bottom line is that in a diminished 7th chord, the dim7 of each note in the chord contains the same notes. So... Bdim7 = Ddim7 = Fdim7 = Abdim7 Cdim7 = Ebdim7 = Gbdim7 = Adim7 C#dim7 = Edim7 = Gdim7 = Bbdim7 Therefore E7/B, G#dim/B, Bdim7 (and also Ddim7, Fdim7, Abdim7 since they are enharmonic equivalents of Bdim7) are all good chords that can be interchanged with one another to create a slightly different musical texture while preserving the harmonic movement. I hope this helps with understanding why different people have arranged it in different ways. --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? swingbabymix #803364 03/09/24 04:17 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Re: E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? Noel96 #803365 03/09/24 04:28 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP swingbabymix Veteran S Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 2,055	Originally Posted by Noel96 Hi SBM. I know that you are on the road to learning music and music theory. I don't know if you've ever come across the information below. If you have just ignore it. If you haven't, maybe it will give come more insight into music for you...... All the replies are great This helps me a lot. Thank you so much. WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO

Re: E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? musocity #803407 03/10/24 05:08 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Re: E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ? Joseph Land #803424 03/10/24 06:52 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,464 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by Joseph Land I only remember this one from school. Johnny was a chemist, Johnny is no more. What he thought was H2O was H2SO4 I shouldn't be entertaining this, but, that's funny (except for Johnny) BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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