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Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed #806315 04/04/24 01:43 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,175 GA USA Janice & Bud OP Veteran
OP Janice & Bud Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,175 GA USA	The Article from the Guardian (safe link) Janice on Spotify J&B Soundcloud J&B Website

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806318 04/04/24 02:33 PM Off-Topic
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B.D.Thomas Expert Joined: Jul 2022 Posts: 1,624 3rd rock from the sun	Oh, their research ends in 2020. At first I thought they had come to this conclusion after listening to my songs Making bits and bytes sound good... Goldmania Bella - A One-Man Girlband with no fans Listen on Spotify Watch on YouTube

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed B.D.Thomas #806321 04/04/24 03:06 PM Off-Topic
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OP Janice & Bud Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,175 GA USA	Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas Oh, their research ends in 2020. At first I thought they had come to this conclusion after listening to my songs No way man. Your productions are great. Ole guy Bud Janice on Spotify J&B Soundcloud J&B Website

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806327 04/04/24 04:03 PM Off-Topic
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 21,657 Mi., USA	"Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed" As the world turns, music reflects ™ .. Make your sound your own! .. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806355 04/04/24 07:33 PM Off-Topic
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,465 Melbourne, Australia	I definitely agree with the appraisal given in the document. And to me, 'Rap' especially wins first prize for anger and repetition. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806360 04/04/24 08:05 PM Off-Topic
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JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,590	Maybe the songwriters are pissed off because they cannot make money with their music any more? Maybe we are generally getting dumber which would explain the need for simpler lyrics? Or maybe we are just getting sadder? And it seems that the internet is not helping! (images from here, https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2019/the-sad-state-of-happiness-in-the-united-states-and-the-role-of-digital-media/) Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 5-1.png (37.04 KB, 66 downloads) 5-4.png (62.22 KB, 66 downloads)

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806361 04/04/24 09:34 PM Off-Topic
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makingmelody Newbie M Joined: Feb 2024 Posts: 9	It does seem like unhappiness is on the rise overall based on that World Happiness Report. The internet and growing isolation probably aren't helping things either. And it's possible easier access to music has made it harder for songwriters to make a living, so they have to simplify lyrics to appeal to broader audiences. Last edited by makingmelody; 04/04/24 09:34 PM.

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed JohnJohnJohn #806376 04/05/24 04:29 AM Off-Topic
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,465 Melbourne, Australia	Wow, JJJ. Those charts are 7+ years old. With those trajectories, I'm almost scared to see where they are in 2024 BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806385 04/05/24 06:16 AM Off-Topic
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Izzy Enthusiast I Joined: Mar 2024 Posts: 48	Boomers are the last "happy" generation but this forum is probably not the place for political debate.

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed AudioTrack #806393 04/05/24 07:10 AM Off-Topic
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 9,405 Middlesex, NC	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Wow, JJJ. Those charts are 7+ years old. With those trajectories, I'm almost scared to see where they are in 2024 well..... Beyonce goes country, P-Diddy is running from the feds, and Willie Nelson is still playing live concerts. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806395 04/05/24 07:22 AM Off-Topic
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Notes Norton Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 6,123 Fort Pierce, Florida, U.S.A.	I don't know about angry and self-obsessed, but simple and repetitive has been a staple of music for a long time, especially 'dance' genres. Take Silver Convention's 1976 hit, “Get Up And Boogie”. If you count the background singers (in parentheses) it's a total of 7 words. The album version is 4 minutes long, and just repeats even more Here is the single version: (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie Boogie, boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie (That's right) Boogie, boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie Boogie, boogie (That's right) Get up and boogie, get up and boogie Get up and boogie, get up and boogie Get up and boogie, get up and boogie Get up and boogie, get up and boogie There are plenty more almost this repetitive. What about angry? Some of the protest songs of the 1960s were pretty angry. With good cause, kids were getting drafted, sent to Vietnam to kill and be killed. I'd be angry, too. But I will concede that the language used to express the anger is more vulgar than it was in the past. But that is probably only because censorship rules have largely been abolished. Self-obsessed? I don't know how self-obsessed you want to go, but there have always been songs written in the first person. “Baby I Need Your Loving”, “My Ding-a-ling”, “The Piña colada Song”, “I Write The Songs”, “I'm Too Sexy”, and the list goes on and on and on. So are they getting worse? Or just different? Basically, there are two kinds of songs, ones that I like, and songs written for other ears. Insights and incites by Notes ♫ Bob "Notes" Norton Norton Music https://www.nortonmusic.com 100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove & Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Guitarhacker #806403 04/05/24 08:21 AM Off-Topic
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JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,590	Originally Posted by Guitarhacker Originally Posted by AudioTrack Wow, JJJ. Those charts are 7+ years old. With those trajectories, I'm almost scared to see where they are in 2024 well..... Beyonce goes country, P-Diddy is running from the feds, and Willie Nelson is still playing live concerts. I'm liking Beyonce's country album too! Or, were you making some other kind of point?

Re: Lyrics getting simpler, repetitive, angry and self-obsessed Janice & Bud #806404 04/05/24 08:22 AM Off-Topic
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JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,590	Well said, Notes!

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